**Warning: Long Philosophical Post Ahead**
Yesterday I went to a secondhand store and bought two dresses from a vintage store. One of them was this little number:

I love this dress. I also love the idea that maybe it is from an earlier decade and it's really old (probably not because it wasn't that expensive). But I loved so much I wore it to church today.
And then I had an interesting experience.
On the walk to the Metro this morning, I noticed a lot of men looking at me. Then I started paying attention and realized a high percentage of the men who passed stared at me as I walked to church. These men were distracted by my dress (I am not so foolish to think it is
me). My outfit made them stop whatever they were doing to stop and stare.
This sparked an interesting conversation with the other girls around me: Is this dress immodest? It technically follows all of the rules: shoulders covered, to the knees, etc. But this dress distracted many of the men around me. Is this dress going against the spirit of the law of modesty?
The point of this post is not to get people to say whether they think this particular dress is modest or not, but more to get people's perspective on modesty. In our conversation, important questions about modesty came up.
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What is the point of modesty?
Often in Young Womens, the emphasis is placed on not distracting guys; covering ourselves to make it easier for men to think good clean thoughts.
If that is the point, is making yourself "distractingly" attractive being immodest? The obvious problem with this point is that we have been told to make ourselves presentable and even attractive. But is there a line between being attractive and going too far (even if following all of the technical rules)?
Is there a distinction between guys thoughts when a women is modestly really attractive and when she is immodest? Or does it lead to the same result; if it is different, is it better?
A different point of modesty is that we need to honor our bodies as a gift from God; our body is a temple. If this is the only point of modesty, that kind of takes care of all of the other questions. But, what if someone's version of honoring their body is being immodest? Clearly, we think there are rules to honoring our bodies; you can't just do anything you think is honoring (multiple piercings, unnatural hair color, etc.).
Perhaps modesty is just preparing us for temple garments. I'm sure this is part of it, but I don't think it is all of it.
Another point of modesty is learning to follow the Prophets' council. Perhaps this is reason enough to do anything in life: trusting the mouthpiece of the Lord. But I think when we come up with reasons why we follow the council, often our resolve to do becomes stronger and we follow it better. Also, I am trying to figure out what the council is right now.
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What is the role of intent in modesty?Someone suggested that intent is what really matters. If you are dressing to get all of the guys attention, that is immodest. But it is modest if you are just dressing to make yourself presentable.
But there is an argument that intentionally or not, immodesty leads to the same consequences. For example, if a girl does not realize her skirt is too high, it still is too high and this leads to the same amount of distraction as if she had known.
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Are we responsible for others' reaction to us?Another point brought up is if we are following all of the rules and doing everything in our power to be modest, is it our fault if we distract others? Should I even be having these questions; am I worrying about something that I cannot control?
One guy suggested if a girl is being modest and a guy still thinks unclean thoughts about her, it is on him not her. But if a girl wears an outfit she knows will do this to men, is it on her? Or is she just being attractive?
(4) Often, the phrase modesty in word and action is used.
What does modesty in action mean?It naturally roles of the tongue, but I never really thought about what phrase means. Perhaps it means what we said earlier but in terms of actions: acting in a way that does not distract men; honoring your body with actions. But what do those mean? I do not know.
Maybe modesty in action is something like trying to describe salt. You know it when you taste it, but you cannot explain it to someone else. Perhaps you just you when you are acting immodestly. But what if you don't?
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Is conservatism part of modesty?In For Strength of Youth, I think it discourages wearing immodest earrings. What are immodest earrings? I am not sure, but I think it has to do with size, color,
style, etc.
Are we allowed to wear clothing that is "out there"? Does modesty have a certain style to it, and if it does, are certain styles in it of themselves immodest? Like clothing that is loud or a little bit crazy. I do not think the church wants us to dress like nuns or even sister missionaries all the time. But should we be closer to that end than we are?
Obviously, I have not really come to any conclusions on these questions. All of these points and ideas are still roaming around in my head. Another important point is that what God cares about is that we are trying our hardest to obey him. I know this and perhaps I am going beyond the mark. I am not meaning to. I am just trying to figure out the "spirit of the law" of modesty.
So often, the letter of the law of modesty is what is emphasized to women. The letter is important, even crucial. But I think knowing the spirit of laws is the higher law.
Please share your ideas and insights. I really am open to anything. Except you saying I am stupid... that I do not appreciate or welcome.